Just about a week ago, I received a call from a patient who was extremely upset that she was being billed $1,400.00 by the imaging facility for a CT scan after we told her that she did not need a prior authorization from her insurance company. Typically, this is one of those things that it’s our word against the insurance company and, historically, the insurance company seems to always win. I guess the axiom “he who holds the money has the power” applies in this kind of situation. The insurance company insisted that they did not have a record of our phone call to them and that they would never have told us that this patient did not need a prior authorization for the CT scan. The patient was irate and understandably so…especially with the economy the way it is. As a goodwill gesture and to keep peace with the patient, I would have accepted the responsibility and paid for the scan and our office would be out the money.
But…we voice record all our incoming and outgoing telephone calls using a system called Talkument. I have all of the staff and physicians trained on what information is helpful to me when I need to investigate a telephone conversation. In this case, I pulled the patient’s chart and the medical assistant wrote a note stating that she called the health plan on 5/23/09 at 3:13 pm and found out that no prior authorization was needed and that she talked with Ann. I knew my medical assistant’s extension and searched based on the information that I had, and viola, I found the four minute telephone conversation between my medical assistant and the health plan representative, Ann, who said that the patient did not need a prior authorization for the CT scan!
I had a three way conference call between the patient, myself and the health plan where I played the recording for them. The patient was ecstatic! I had to play this information a couple of levels up the ladder and was still told that someone would have to get back to me (quite frankly, I don’t think they were ready to address the fact that the doctor’s office actually had recorded them! Uh oh! They were caught!)
About a week later, the health plan representative called me and stated that they would cover the cost of this CT scan “this one time”. She still did not want to take responsibility for her company giving inaccurate information. She made it sound like we doctored up the recording…even though we have caller ID that had the health plan’s toll-free number and the first two minutes of the recording was the automated system that announces the health plan name. I was even told by the rep that the person with whom my medical assistant had talked with, Ann, was not an employee of this health plan. I love the lack of accountability!
Defensive medicine is taking on a new definition. Besides the Internet, the next best resource I have in my office is the voice documentation system for phone call recording! The system has aided me with staffing issues, patient issues and now insurance issues. It has definitely paid for itself in protecting my physicians and our office from lying and deceit.

July 5, 2009 at 11:56 pm |
Wow Charlene! I love it. Fantastic.
July 6, 2009 at 9:55 pm |
Charlene,
What a great story. Good for you! And I’m happy for the patient too.
I can’t believe the insurance company, after all that, did not take responsibility for their incompetence. From your recount it sounded as if the rep was almost doing the patient (their customer by the way) a favor by paying the claim, when in fact, it was their mistake.
On one hand I’m happy because you prevailed. On the other I’m saddened because this is the type of stuff we have to go thru day to day to get reimbursed. Had it not been for the resources available to you and the extraordinary effort on your part, the patient would not have had a chance.
I’m glad you blogged about it because otherwise, how else would people know. Hopefully more people (like us) will blog, tweet or do whatever else necessary to continue getting the word out.
Thanks again for sharing. I think this story may merit a blog post on my blog.
Keep up the good work.
@pediatricinc
July 8, 2009 at 8:28 pm |
Charlene,
This proactive response is what sets POMAA members apart. I took a claim to the OIG because it was denied as pre-existing. This was a young lady who contracted eboli on a vacation to Mexico. Since the original claim was “abdominal pain”, it was denied as pre-exsisting. Who knew she had a belly ache in the past?!
Vicki
July 8, 2009 at 8:50 pm |
Thank you all for your great comments! These are just a small sample of the headaches that we have to deal with in health care…and what drives the cost of health care up. I wish that the government would take note that the insurance companies need to be regulated. They need to have consistent policies. It seems that health care providers are always having to play the insurance game to get services covered. Now, health insurance companies are saying that if they are regulated that will drive up the cost of the insurance premium. I think that is just manipulative scare tactics! Doing nothing seems to be driving up the insurance premium!
August 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
Charlene, this is great – good for you! I need to look into that phone recording system.
Every time I hear somebody say, “Health Insurance for All” I think, “Insurance is the problem, not the solution.” I think insurance companies should be not-for-profit. Ten years ago I would not have believed I wanted government-run anything but I’m changing my mind. I certainly don’t want it forever but the insurance companies need a good hit. I think only people in the medical profession realize this. There was a great article in March in Time magazine and the key phrase (quoted by Obama last week) was, “You are only one diagnosis away from financial ruin WITH health insurance. Loved it!
August 5, 2009 at 8:15 pm |
Thanks, Marty! Yes, definitely look into Talkument! I can not say enough good things about it. They should put me on their payroll because of how much I talk about it. I did help them out with a case study that is on YouTube. If you have about ten minutes, you can watch it by clicking on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Ikzy87h5A. I do not receive anything from recommending them…I just love their system immensly!
Anyhow, I agree with you regarding the problems with insurance. I think they should focus on Health INSURANCE reform. There would be a lot of money saved if the health plans all had to follow consistent rules. They all have different reimbursement policies and it is very difficult to keep all of them straight. If we try to follow CPT guidelines for coding we find out that Insurance 1 does it this way, Insurance 2 does it that way, and Insurance 3 doesn’t reimburse it at all. So much money is wasted in appealing denials because the insurance companies aren’t even following their own reimbursement policies! It’s nuts!
August 23, 2009 at 1:57 pm |
Thank you for blogging about this in-real-life, real-world example of what you do for your patients. So often patients feel as though they’re just stuck in the middle. I believe the snafus impact loyalty, credibility and reputation of the doctors in the practice before the reputation of the insurance company in the public’s eyes. You went the extra mile for this patient. As the first poster said, “Fantastic!”